If you are not a US citizen, do a lot more research, because getting a residency in the US will probably be tricky for you and there's just a lot more obstacles you have to go through as an IMG non-US citizen. I actually came across this topic as I’m honestly frustrated with my Caribbean med school, so I decided to do a quick search on if all of them are like that, or if it’s just mine. But-the program director was an “old- If you’re someone who has excellent grades and excellent test-taking skills, you will almost guaranteed match after four years. Schools like the International University of Health Sciences allow you to take the basic sciences online (2 years), then find a residency in the United States and their system has been very successful. And almost none of that is left. My heart goes out to you all. Everything that they have to say about the Caribbean school life is right on. Failure is thinking things will always work the way you want them to. Hi Sara! You will get discouraged and depressed sometimes. The school backed down and reinstated the old grading scheme for the classes. I was very skeptical before I came here of course, but this school, IMO will allow you to have your sanity while going through these 2 tough years of basic sciences. It’s a VERY corrupt, hypocritical society. Do you have any undisclosed information on their loan for international student? Medicare and Medicaid programs support residency trainings, and the National Health Service Corps awards grants and loans to medical students in exchange for service in needier regions. Life gave us punches as kids in High School in US. It makes more sense to go to PA school if you can even get in. While all the Campuses (Barbados, Jamaica and Trinidad) offer high quality Medical degrees, I highly recommend the beautiful Cave Hill Campus in Barbados. Thank you Dr. Wible. Does anyone know about AUIC in Barbados? I just couldn’t. SJSM would have you believe that they put a lot of money into their faculty, and that is why the campus facilities are so rudimentary. You pay 10k for that, and are also a Slave. At the time, you work your ass off and you get a shot at getting residency back in the US. We would cool our heels for If you are going to worry about the cost, don’t go for it. They have campuses located in the US that I am able to attend live lectures at. I attended All Saints University of Medicine, St. Vincent and the Grenadines. I found out making excuses whether valid or not just doesn’t flow on the islands; it is just a recipe for failure. Many students do this. The heat and humidity is awful, but it made me very comfortable with the local area. You need to change things up because if you were getting C's in undergrad science courses, well you are going to struggle here. On top of that, there are not enough residency slots in almost every medical specialty and that is not presently being adequately addressed. I am currently a staff physician at a hospital working along side doctors who graduated from some of the top schools in the United States. You have to want this as bad as you need to breathe. So why come here? All in all, SGU has their pros and cons... as does any school, it will get you to where you want to be, a practicing physician in the US.. I am in a Caribbean medical school and 2 of my friends from Toledo are US citizens so they were able to get into US medical schools but I couldn’t. It is an uphill road to become a surgeon via offshore med school though can be done with determination. Plus their schooling is oriented towards osteopathic medicine, slightly different (slightly), than what is tested on the USMLE. In general, students sign themselves up to be here, and there's an airport. It’s now being run in such a way that I would highly recommend students look elsewhere. You can put all your energies into studying and reap nothing. Well, it’s close to Venezuela and I assume they have a lot of rum and spices. First of all not everyone at a Caribbean medical school processes the appropriate academic competency to succeed. If they miss even a single day, they get their wages docked. Yes, I agree with you that Caribbean schools aren’t even half as good as the U.S counterparts but at the end of the day, you are responsible for your success regardless of what school you attend – U.S or Caribbean. 5. We do a lot of self-teaching and we have to find out a lot of resources ourselves, but from what I hear, it makes us much stronger students and physicians in the future. I was even inspired to write about my Caribbean experience on a forum that might help other future medical students which I’ve added below. Pluses are that class sizes are small. Nutshell version. AUC being in a more touristy island was kind of a negative in my book. Residency then was brutal, no work hours limits, some malignant attendings that could make your life miserable by generally if you survived and completed the program you could be thrown in the fire and survive. I would like some insight from current students and alumni. I’d love to hear from anyone else on their take on this or their own decisions! They let in about 700 for the January starting class which are on different schedules and have a smaller lecture hall to accommodate a smaller class. With help from family, friends, and an organization called Medical Education Cooperation with Cuba—which helps American students in Cuba prepare for their homecoming with scholarships, tutoring for U.S. exams, and connections to American medical networks—she returned home each summer, gaining experience at hospitals in Minneapolis, Oakland, and Washington, D.C. Volume so big to learn it all in short semesters and hard to retain long term. Hi, I am also Nigerian who is currently enrolled in a Canadian university and considering the Caribbean after my undergraduate degree I would be glad to speak with you. you also can get your ass handed to you even when you dont sleep and just study all the time. I would also like some feedback on Ross University vs SABA vs AUC. Not sure if I did well. The states, however, have allowed themselves to be cowed into ignoring the issue. Thank for the interaction. All rights reserved. Here is a recent example of a shady/frustrating experience students had to deal with: SJSM, part way through a semester decided that they were going to have students write exam style questions for marks that would contribute to their course grades. The American students that apply for this school either 1. were not smart enough to get into a school in the United States or 2. were not working hard enough. Thanks for your prompt response. You mentioned that all exams were written essay and to answer those hundreds of questions within 2 hours. Not that I’d want to do it again but if I did I’d look into schools in South America that have reasonable tuition even though they dont cater to foreign students. There were no mandatory regulations for another comp exam in place, but while I was studying, the exam was implemented. They do not post them. Studying for my MCAT right now. My daughter goes to St.George University School of Medicine.I can only say good things.Their stats in USMLE passing rates are great much higher then US DO Schools.Resendency matching rates are fantastic.This School is harder to get in to,but highly recommend it.They post everything on line ,that you want to know,including name of student and resedency placed in by individual state in the US.The university is very organized,and makes best effort even for families,boyfriends of fiancées that have accompanied the Med or Vet Student for the 5 quarters they have to stay in Grenada. Nowadays would first shoot for a US DO or MD first since it opens the door to residency, not that it will make you a smarter doctor. From above posts the attrition rate is high but many get the chance they couldn’t get in their home country. As always, results vary by individual. SGU does accept some students with low stats and they do struggle here. Also been able to do rotation in different states while having a strong network. Also, does subway still run out of breadaround 5pm? Hi Dahn. I took the information that admissions counselors give me and then I verify it by looking on the USMLE websites, I counted the number of students that got matched against their graduation roster, I also compared all the big four and gathered more information from reputable well researched sites and will make my decision whether to attend St George, SABA, or MUA, University of Arizona, University of Virginia, Harvard Medical, or Johns Hopkins. Practice what you preach, isn’t that how the common saying go? run into car crash medicine scams…with the local Mafia staging the US med schools have about a 1-2% attrition rate, we have on average a 40% attrition rate. I know of a class that started off semester 1 with 45 students. The school lost its financial aid shortly after, so I would have been forced to leave anyway. In the meantime, given I left that med school with no degree (came in right out of highschool), I continued my schooling in the US. I publish 99.99% of everything that comes my way otherwise unless it is completely off topic. Am from Ethiopia, I finished my BSN back home and currently am her in TX, working as Nurse/RN, planning Caribbean MD school but I totally confused which school I have to go. Here, a facilitator guides students in the discussion of content questions. Robbins 9th edition? A “bachelors degree” in 6 months?? I went to SGU and withdrew in my second semester… education was just really bad. Some people just concentrate on what is going on in class and the positives and not dwell too much on what they can’t change. The content is essentially the same worldwide. scholarship. They will ALL tell you it was HELL. “Oh we know it’s 2018 and medicine has evolved so much, but right now only the 2014 edition of First Aid for the USMLE is available, but you can work with that right?” Also most of the lecturers just read straight out of a review book, such as Kaplan or BRS, yet class is mandatory. About 30% of the class has headphones on during lecture listening to an outside source and just click in for the attendance question. If that’s the case, then the USMLEs are not hard enough and should be re-examined for their difficulty and effectiveness for being used as a gauge to grant would-be Doctors advancement toward becoming licensed to practice. they are very competitive of course. My advisor told me to “just quit, it isn’t for everybody and it only gets harder.” (thank gawd I didn’t listen to her.) Rules are going to be strict than you are used to. That leaves the student being taught by faculty that may know less about the area than they do oftentimes. Extreme measures much? -Ive recently heard alot of cons about Ross but what do you think of the school since it has moved to Barbados? I've made the argument over and over again that the Caribbean should be a last resort of virtually every medical school applicant. Those of you who are considering medicine as a career field need to understand that medical school is perhaps the best part of the training process. 7. You can’t learn everything you need to know from powerpoint slides. My Boss wanted me to be his business partner in this! We were used as Unfortunately, the truth is denied to you. If you end up being one of the few that graduate from Saba, then it will be because you have enormous outside family support, both financially and emotionally.
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