where they devised what some now call "cultural Marxism"a strategy for creating a cultural revolution to undermine Western capitalism and "outmoded" biblical values . But it caused all kinds of problems. But the conflict between civilizations during the 2020 US election has revealed some problems that are emerging in the West. Seven years later Spheers released The Decline of Western Civilization II: The Metal Years. (Long sigh) I had the thumb on me, controlling me. You end up wanting to scream. Offscreen, he was one himself. (Credit: Nigel Hawtin). Mike Myers is incredibly talented but he was also unbelievably difficult to work with. Johnny is a music journalist, author and archivist of forty years experience. Were doing gigs, we recorded a live album last year, and played some shows in Germany and Switzerland. But youd be remiss to skip over this final, necessary document; as with Spheeriss first two films, youll find tragedy and hope in even doses. It got your face out there and you got to be seen. The first person here seemed confused as to what Western Civilization is. And because it was not my band, I really enjoyed being able to kick back a bit and be more carefree. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. I just knew I had to make another film, about these people. Terms of Service apply. We were filmed in a hot tub. We will only march into collapse if we advance blindly. (Or, like bathrooms.) who said i was a poser bitch for claiming i was punk when i wasn't. but i never said i was punk. RANDOMNESS/BAD LUCK: Statistical analysis on empires suggests that collapse is random and independent of age. In no other civilization did this debate about the limits of the sacred and the profane, this constant effort at trying to grasp the divine through word and deed, last continuously for over five thousand years. The film didnt do much for our career. The documentary was equally entertaining, even if the focus was less on the music and more on musicians' lust for sex, drugs and stardom. Hair metal was rife in the late 1980s on LAs Sunset Strip, and Spheeris was there to capture it all. In the film I talked about the size of my dick. The promoter said we didnt have to play, so we just hung out and played basketball. Oh, Loosey! Like many of the bands featured in The Decline Of Western Civilization Part II, Odin were already legends in their own minds by the time the film crew arrived. Then, just as Newlydeads was starting to take off, we got offered a new record deal for Faster. But its Part II on which the series legend is built as well as that of the dying days of the Hollywood scene. Studies suggest that the EROI for fossil fuels has been steadily decreasing over time as the easiest to reach and richest reserves are depleted. Stay up to date with in depth music reviews, exclusive interviews and widespread coverage of whats happening from your favourite music genre. I see kids now with their leather jackets and long hair, totally believing that their band is going to make it, just like we did, but ironically, the films cult classic status has given us a whole new audience. The video game instructions and box are included. The Decline of Western Civilization is a 1981 American documentary filmed through 1979 and 1980. I havent been drinkin since 1996. We were already oddballs, even within the scene, because I was so seventies-influenced. In the past, collapse was confined to regions it was a temporary setback, and people often could easily return to agrarian or hunter-gatherer lifestyles. The Indus Valley (or Harappan) Civilization. Im now playing in Crud with the singer from Sponge and I play on lots of other peoples records. Now I cant wash a dish, cant button my shirt. The Decline of Western Civilization Part III (1996) - A film detailing the furious lives and tragic deaths of a group of gutter punks living in L.A. from 96'-97'. How the West reacts to them will . Fri., 7:30 p.m. $10. She gave us a bunch of beers and the cameras rolled. Guns in 2001. It included a series of interviews with punks, musicians, along with concert footage. Some recovered or transformed, such as the Chinese and Egyptian. But not everybodys rocknroll dreams came true. Penelope Spheeriss trilogy about LAs punk and hair metal scenes is both hopeful and bleak, with revealing interviews with future stars. Steven Hanseter: Im forty-nine years old, never been a smoker, never been drunk. So I came up with this idea for a website called Metal Sludge, where we would make fun of the eighties, a very affectionate piss-take. . Unfortunately it was the best promotion Odin ever had but we were no longer a band. Penelope noticed that, being from the Motor City, we were freaking out staring at all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris in LA, so she hired some for our interviews. A subscription makes a thoughtful gift for both family and friends. Ive got long hair, but Im a businessman.. Within a couple of days I auditioned, and got the job. Now for the first time, all three films are available in one deluxe box set. BA1 1UA. Its also possible that collapse can happen without violent catastrophe. The record companies dropped all of our shit; crazy hair and make-up kind of went away. Im lucky, my dad and mom are still goin. As the singer in Faster Pussycat and co-founder of the notorious, heroically debauched Cathouse club, Seattle-born Taime Downe or Gustave Molvik to his parents was perfectly placed to witness the rise and fall of the Sunset Strip scene. In 1988, Penelope Spheeris released a documentary that the chief of the LAPD demanded, via a strongly worded letter, never be shown again in the city of Los . Here's the full list of the civilisations displayed above. Photograph: Everett Collection, Inc/Alamy The Germs' charismatic young frontman, Darby Crash, is the film's most magnetic . Sure, the film gave London a huge push. That was our first show together. Whats Next for Convicted Sex Criminals Harvey Weinstein and R. Kelly? ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION: Collapse can occur when societies overshoot the carrying capacity of their environment. Maher said part of the problem of losing civilization is you fail to make judgments. Barbarians at the Gates is a card-driven game for two players set during the final hundred plus years of the Western Roman Empire as the Barbarian tribes in the north, and other climes, came down with a vengeance as they clashed with civilization and carved out their place amongst it.The time period covered in the game is from the death of Constantine the Great (337 AD) to the deposition of . Nuclear war in itself could result in an existential risk: either the extinction of our species, or a permanent catapult back to the Stone Age. I came back from Chicago after the Pigface thing and started doing The Newlydeads with some friends here in LA. Similarly, innovation as measured by per capita patent applications is also rising. The best musical instrument is a love triangle. As well as Armored Saint I also have my own band, DC4. And who you can expect to see performing and presenting. 500 BCE - 900 CE. In a rather tactless way, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) made this claim on an MSNBC panel at the Republican National Convention last night. By the time The Cathouse was up and running we were off, constantly touring. When you do a record deal, dont trust anybody, especially your best friend. In 1981, the LAPD Chief of Police Daryl Gates wrote a letter demanding the film not be shown again in the city. Directed by acclaimed documentary maker Penelope Spheeris and originally released in June 1988, it swiftly became a cult classic (and an undeniable influence on a later Spheeris movie, Waynes World). O f the unmaking of great books, there is no end.Such is life.Only in fiction does the plot resolve in a tidy closing of narrative threads. This can be difficult, because there is no strict definition of civilisation, nor an overarching database of their births and deaths. "A bracing, stimulating and technically superb close-up look at the L.A. punk scene." - Variety Penelope Spheeris' The Decline Of Western Civilization was perceived as shocking and outrageous at the time of its original release in 1981 and its two follow-up films were no less extraordinary and revealing. What can the rise and fall of historic civilisations tell us about our own? But where are they now? At that time, everyone wanted a big flamboyant singer like [Mtley Cres] Vince Neil, to look good on MTV, but being a trio with no obvious frontman fucked us. By submitting your email, you agree to our Terms and Privacy Policy and to receive email correspondence from us. My life was about drugs, vodka and girls. She discovered clusters of teenage runaways, dubbed gutter punks partly due to an anti-establishment stance and a shared aesthetic, but mainly because they often lived in the street. The period between the catastrophic end of the Mycenaean civilization and about 900 bce . In the graphic below, I have compared the lifespan of various civilisations, which I define as a society with agriculture, multiple cities, military dominance in its geographical region and a continuous political structure. He believes that western civilization is unique and has created itself. But then I saw Mtley Cre on the Shout At The Devil tour and Van Halen on the 1984 tour. Chris Holmes: When Penelope asked me to be in the Decline movie, I went: Why dont you ask Blackie [Lawless, W.A.S.P. William Luther Pierce. There is no reason to believe that greater size is armour against societal dissolution. It wasnt anything against the Russian people it was drugs- and alcohol-fuelled silliness and I didnt know the flag was fireproof. It was too late to change the movie poster: a shot of Crash lying with his eyes closed, almost lifeless, on a stage floor.The second and third films in this series are great too, but for different, lesser reasons. These are their stories, in their own words. Some days I cant get to rehearsals. Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, England, The Netherlands, Germany. Virtually all past civilisations have faced this fate. A couple of years ago I moved out to Las Vegas. Read about our approach to external linking. 2023 Vox Media, LLC. Like, we had a seven-foot-high drum riser with a girl dancing underneath it. But The Decline of Western Civilization is the first and best film of what would become a loosely linked trilogy exploring different LA subcultures over three decades. Our technological capabilities may have the potential to delay collapse (Credit: Getty Images). Shellenberge agreed. You just point a camera at him and off he goes. The Decline of Western Civilization III is a 1998 documentary film, directed by Penelope Spheeris, that chronicles the gutter punk lifestyle of homeless teenagers. The empire fell alongside their EROI. Avoiding the creation of dangerous and widely-accessible technologies is also critical. Were constantly working. Answer (1 of 7): It is very visible by all angles that western civilization (meaning north america & western europe) is in sharp decline on both a societal/cultural aspect and an economic/political aspect and all people responsible for the study of the subject agree on that as well. And a changing climate may irreparably damage our ability to return to simple farming practices. Unfortunately, most renewable replacements, such as solar, have a markedly lower EROI, largely due to their energy density and the rare earth metals and manufacturing required to produce them. In that time, weve toured with Motrhead, played the Reading festival and had a shared cover of Metal Hammer magazine last December. Ozzy Osbourne in The Decline of Western Civilisation Part II in 1988. hen Penelope Spheeris was making the first part of her landmark documentary The Decline of Western Civilization in 1979 and 1980, none of the people she was chronicling were known outside of Los Angeless dank punk scene. But between their notorious on-screen appearance in a hot tub and the films release, the band had broken up, with guitarist Jeff Duncan going on to join LA metal linchpins Armored Saint, of which hes still a member. I cant play guitar any more, so now Im the singer. In the film, Crash cooks eggs in a rundown kitchen and candidly explains how he needs to be bombed before performing and how he started hurting himself on stage due to boredom. Since its first publication in two volumes between 1918-1923, The Decline of the West has ranked as one of the most widely read and most talked about books of our time. Think of civilisation as a poorly-built ladder. Attempts were made to get me to include more of the mainstream, successful bands, but that wasnt really what interested me. I would argue that they are. Any collapse any fall from the ladder risks being permanent. In his book The Upside of Down, the political scientist Thomas Homer-Dixon observed that environmental degradation throughout the Roman Empire led to falling EROI from their staple energy source: crops of wheat and alfalfa. The Roman Empire covered 4.4 million sq km (1.9 million sq miles) in 390. Or why not treat yourself? You want to know the truth? In retrospect, everybody talks about it real fondly, but at the time bands were fightin like cats and dogs, steppin on one another. The concentration of humans and cattle in walled settlements with poor hygiene made disease outbreaks unavoidable and catastrophic. Penelope Spheeris: My family background was chaotic, so when I saw the punk thing happening in clubs I felt very at home with it. When Randy said he wanted to be as big as Robert Plant or else hed commit suicide, it was a bit much, but he had that attitude: shooting for the moon. Decline of Western Civilization captured an important moment in music history. Public services crumble and disorder ensues as government loses control of its monopoly on violence. Western civilization has swept the globe for more than 500 years now. During his career, the prolific actor inhabited an array of troubled characters. I now have two children, I still do twenty to thirty shows a year with Tuff, and I play with a band out of Germany called Shameless. The typical measurement of the Gini Index suggests that inequality has decreased slightly globally (although it is increasing within countries). Nikki Sixxs email address was in there. He'll be dressed and groomed just like the White . Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. All we had was a bag of weed, two bottles of booze and our guitar players credit card. 323 BCE - 31 BCE. And that has kind of evolved into my current band, Spiders And Snakes, where weve really embraced our seventies roots. So we were driving round like stars in cars we didnt own. After this point, collapse will eventually ensue. While we are becoming more economically powerful and resilient, our technological capabilities also present unprecedented threats that no civilisation has had to contend with. I remember driving down Sunset Strip in my car, seeing all these strangely dressed people spilling out on to the sidewalk. The trailer for The Decline of Western Civilization Part I. "It's been a year of pure hell," filmmaker Penelope Spheeris says with a laugh. It was supposed to be on the Sunday, but Penelope called me Saturday morning and goes: Can you film it today, Chris? I go: I been up for three days, partying since I got home from London. And she goes: Well, do you mind? And I go: No. And right when I was goin out the door, my mom pulled up. I even got a couple of those investments., The Los Angeles quartet were filmed tearing through Steppenwolfs Born To Be Wild, with the singer (also named Lizzy Borden) declaring: We want to be the biggest, most outrageous heavy metal band ever but theres a million bands out there, playing the clubs for a lifetime.. At gigs he gets so high that he forgets to sing into the microphone. Civilization Timeline. Louder is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Our bus was confiscated, all our gear, all our shit, we were left in a hotel with our rooms already due. The 1% have increased in their share of global income from approximately 16% in 1980 to over 20% today. I didnt think grunge would kill our shit, but it did pretty much. The somewhat reassuring news is that collapse metrics are not the entire picture. These days, the mythology of that era now revolves largely around Guns N Roses, Aerosmith and Alice Cooper, all of whom feature prominently in the film, but its most memorable moments and unforgettable utterances came from the eras young hopefuls who never quite scaled the heights they dreamed of. One method is to examine the trends that preceded historic collapses and see how they are unfolding today. can oligarchy and centralisation of power, although it is increasing within countries, sign up for the weekly bbc.com features newsletter. So, according to Reinhart and Rogoff's book, we can expect that the US and western Europe are now in a long-term type of decline. I went on an aversion therapy program to quit drinkin. So I quit my job and bought a one-way ticket for a hundred and nine dollars from Chicago to LA-X. Everyone blamed each other. The collapse of the Anasazi, the Tiwanaku civilisation, the Akkadians, the Mayan, the Roman Empire, and many others have all coincided with abrupt climatic changes, usually droughts. Being a skateboarder, I was into punk and new wave, like 999, The Specials, Devo. Ive seen the damage caused by excess and overblown egos and Odin taught me what not to do. The Decline of Western Civilization triple set of music documentaries is out now as a DVD and Blu-ray box set. Difference #3: Unlike past societies, industrial civilization isn't Roman, Chinese, Egyptian, Aztec, or Mayan. When Alex [Nelson, bass] and Corey [James Daum, guitar] were killed in car crashes, that knocked the stuffing out of me, but playing the Bang Your Head festival in Germany in 2008 revived my passions. After a few weeks the club was packed. Whats that? Nobody knew. The climate is changing, the gap between the rich and poor is widening, the world is becoming increasingly complex, and our demands on the environment are outstripping planetary carrying capacity. The young hopefuls scenes in a hot tub, surrounded by female fans, are among the most infamous in the film, not least for singer Randy Os supersized bravado: I want to be as big as Zeppelin or the Beatles go down in history like Jim Morrison or Robert Plant its gonna happen. It didnt. The Roman Empire, for example, was the victim of many ills including overexpansion, climatic change, environmental degradation and poor leadership. Now we tour at least three months out of every year. Being on stage in Tuff was a licence to kill, as far as getting girls. So concluded the historian Arnold Toynbee in his 12-volume magnum opus A Study of History. In the first week we had twenty people look at it, and a year or two later were were getting twenty-five thousand a day. Breaking down the contenders in the seasons most unpredictable Oscar race. I went to school with the guys from Alice In Chains. Jason Statham and Aubrey Plaza do not seem like a match made in action-comedy-chemistry heaven, but it somehow works. That's not all. If anything, the film was sanitised, because this was the era of Tipper Gore and the Parental Advisory sticker. They treated us really good, but Id been shoved into the industry for the first eight years of my adult life. "In a dying civilization, political prestige is the reward not of the shrewdest politician, but of the man with the best bedside manner. However, the returns from complexity eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. She put us in the movie and it absolutely put us on the map. I was more interested in spending time in the gym; more a jock than a rocker. Under that chair in the movie, there was blow and weed and all that shit, and wed been partyin it up and havin a great time. I still play a lot with Spiders And Snakes, but I have a medical condition, Parkinsons, which makes it hard to control your muscles. The field of cliodynamics models how factors such as equality and demography correlate with political violence. 9 Have precious metals safely stored in non-bank vaults overseas. And we faked the spilling of the orange juice. Again. Mass 3rd world immigration. I remember a show in Ohio, we played for free and two people came. I play with [former Angel singer] Frank DiMino when Im not touring with Armored Saint and have made a living as a musician all these years, which is all I ever wanted ever since I was little. 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